This Was NASCAR's Greatest Rivalry

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It was 160 six laps into the 1976 Daytona 500, when Richard Petty passed David Pearson for the first time, the number 43, Dodge Charger. Zip past Pearson's, 1976 Mercury, Montego the 2-ton post, boil crisis, Beast race, just inches apart, and Petty, squeak by to take the lead. They stayed car lengths, reach other as every attendee in Daytona Beach, climb the walls to get a better view of History unfolding on the final lap Pearson maneuver to his yacht ever race car low on one of the last turn and push the eight hundred horsepower monster just competitive and pulled ahead. He steered them, Auntie go to the top of turn for and Petty position to retake the lead as they could both. See The Checkered Flag. Only 1,500 feet away, Patty made his move on the final Turner, gunned it and rock. It is blue and orange charger, right? Past Pearson or almost past Pearson as they routed turn for the Chargers monsters rear bumper clip the front.

End of the Montego, the force, slammed Petty in the wall, then Petty overcorrected and smashed head-on into the concrete behind him. Pearson struggle to keep is Montego pointed towards the flag and crashed in the Waukesha.

They both struggled to keep their cars on the track and wind up spending on the grass. A hundred feet from the Finish Line. Petty's motor cut is the car rolled to a stop but as Pearson crashed, he smashed his foot down on the clutch which saved his car from stalling out like patties, when the Montego came to a stop Pearson pop, the clutch and drop the car into gear and crawled. His way towards the Finish Line in his destroyed car. While Petty sat in his dead vehicle Mopar versus Ford North versus South Carolina Purolator vs. Fpp. How did Patty Ann Pearson managed to win? So many races? Why do they wind up in head-to-head battles? Almost every weekend. And how did their rivalry push? NASCAR to the Limit and save the sport and suffering, the same fate as the Auto industry during the 1970s, is Patty versus Pearson.

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Yeah, that's also did a mashup album around that time, but it was to prove that girl talk was garbage. I didn't think that girl, talked was worthy of all the hype. He was getting sounds like I'm going to make my own and it took me months to take me probably 6 months to make like 45 minutes of a mash-up and I'm very proud of it. And it's great. I've listened to it. Yeah. I heard it. Used to send it my way and I want to hear it's called Masterpiece. Theater piece theater. How about we talk about the story? Yeah, for more than 25 years. Richard the king Petty and David. The Silver Fox Pearson went head-to-head at the track and Forge one of the deepest rivalries ever seen in the sport of Natalie NASCAR.

But Motorsport over all the two faced off 551 times between 1960 and 1981. Yeah, it's pretty insane. And during that time. The two minutes to win a 205 of those 551 starts, which is this an absolutely ridiculous percentage, and I pretty much makes them some of the best drivers in NASCAR has ever seen. When these two Rivals Don track together. None of the other cars mattered in modern, NASCAR rivalries are somewhat common place. Like when Jimmy, Spencer sock. Kurt Busch right in the nose after REI store in Dale Earnhardt, Jeff Gordon won head-to-head trading, insults on the podium. It's basically a form of marketing, for NASCAR these days, much like a cafe battles of the WWE, but before all that they were the old guy NASCAR at a time of guys, with names, like, Fireball Johnson, dick, Dixon and pappy Train Dominoes at the track. They kept their battles on the oval and didn't call each other's names.

Three of those are penis names. All the time. He was NASCAR royalty and he acted like it. His fatherly Patty made a name for himself at the first NASCAR race ever held at Charlotte Speedway. He borrowed his neighbor's 1948, Buick Roadmaster and promptly rolled. It unturned. 3, Roadmaster looks a little different from there. He won. The inaugural Daytona 500 and he just kept on racing After Five Seasons. He managed to place top five in each one, the younger Petty, Richard watched his dad gather wins, and he wanted Tony asked himself. So 1958. He joined Petty Enterprises in a year or nine top-10 finishes, as well as the label Rookie of the Year. By the mid-60s. He claimed his first Grand National cup.

65, NASCAR band, Patty's beloved Hemi, which disappointed him so much, he knows entirely out of NASCAR instead of your drag racing, but he returned a NASCAR with his non Hemi Mopar power in 1967. Had the greatest. You're not only of his life, but also every other racer of all time that time Petty one. I'm mind-boggling 27 out of 48 races and to top it off while he want 10 of them in a row. Joe.

Fish. So that 10 in a row. Streak has never happened in NASCAR. That's never happened in. NASCAR history. Not even close. The second-best is five in a row when she also held but tied with Bobby Allison. Well, so the second-best record is half that record and he has it. That's crazy some attribute. His plethora of winds to him, being a good driver and sure. That's probably part of it, but you can't be another one if you don't have a number to chasing you in my right? Yes.

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So yeah, the Joker completes the Batman, Joe Frazier battle, Muhammad Ali. Coca-Cola has Pepsi and Lamborghinis one even exist. If Enzo Ferrari hadn't been a jerk to his customers. There's always going to be again to be David Pearson. Slid into the NASCAR seen in 1960 destined to clash heads with Petty. It's like they were created in a lab to specifically compete.

Pearson was from South Carolina and didn't come from a family of racers. His first taste of stock car racing was when he climbed a tree outside of the Spartanburg Fairgrounds to catch a free peek at the cars. Watching the 1940s lead, sleds rip. Around the dirt track was so appealing that he declared right then that he would have a career and racing, he went out and bought a 1940 Ford Coupe and unbolt the Defenders and converted it to a street rod. He spent his time Dukes of Hazzard style jump in that Beast over ditches until a real thing over. I know that's what with your first car. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just going to jump this ditch in high school. His name was Ivan and he had a Dodge Intrepid that you would jump over Kirby sauce. I feel the same thing.

We bought another $44 and took it racing, where he bagged a $30 prize in The Outlaw class. What is the outlaw class?

Also, another Ivan story in junior high on Valentine's Day on Valentine's Day. This girl Bailey. She was like giving her friends goldfish as like Valentine's. So she had like a shit like Goldfish crackers, like that. The animal 81

He ate a goldfish alive dolls. All my God, Ivan.

Was he like a viking or what? Did this guy look like? He came from Russia? A deal. That was like a Friday night for him ever seen.

Which says a lot about me, I guess. But I feel like you at you, at more than anyone have these weird kind of, guys in this life. Like you have a lot of Ravens in your life. I do. I do. It's just that's part of small town living, man. As far as living. That's what it is. That's what task adero does, man, eating goldfish and hop in curves.

Yeah, and a pretty good in and out. I am doing I driven through just to get just we stop for In-N-Out specifically wee wee, wee mean Rachel base our road trips off of In & Out locations and atascadero's on the way to you know, Santa Cruz self. We headed up Pearson's consistent, winds caught the attention of locals and in 1959. He won the track championship at greenville-pickens. Speedway this put them on a direct path to NASCAR except. He didn't have a car or a team of Hellraiser named Jack White. Sold him a car and its first. Race was the second Daytona 500 where you placed 28th. Well, behind the Father and Son, Petty team, man, taking time out of his busy music schedule. Yeah. He is down around the same time title was grilling out there for me.

Oceanside Pearson was just getting started. He raced in 22 events at season and earned the Rookie of the Year title after getting pull at Piedmont and back in. Second place at Gamecocks Speedway. I love these old racetrack names. I got greenville-pickens Speedway Spartanburg. You got Gamecock Speedway showed Gulch.

I feel like this guy his second race ever was at the Daytona. 500 in Daytona, 500 ever raced.

Oh, maybe you break and his phone or his first race was the second. Sorry. I'm sorry. I read it wrong trial by fire right there on the same track. That is there right now. Oh, no, it looks like they have their they had the oval track setup. So they're not in the beach at this time. Yeah, it's the same. Wow. Same course, probably a little different obviously. But yeah, I'm looking at this picture of the first Daytona taken from the the Goodyear, blimp back. Then it is that's really cool. Technology has improved very much not just need to

I don't know man. Well, they got the LED on that was a big innovation. So Pearson second place a Gamecock Speedway, was also the first time he went head-to-head with Richard Petty, Petty was well-funded and well-respected, Pearson drove his own car and had to make a name for himself. So, basically polar opposite. He definitely had something to prove and is successful first season, put them on the radar. Okay? Well don't do that. Sounds like hell. Yeah, I'm all about Richard Petty. I love the king. But now I'm like, oh, you're some kind of the underdog starting in 1960 and running until Pearson retired. In 1986. The Carolinas Duo went head-to-head 551 times as we've mentioned, Petty beat Pearson, 290 times and scored one hundred. Eight first-place wins to Pearson is 97.

How do you place the top five 292 times? While Pearson placed 289 times in the top five? Wow, I'm so close to four top-10 finishes, Petty earned 367 to Pearson's 349.

If you just look at the wrong numbers, looks like Petty one or did he, what do you pull back and look at the whole career. These two drivers? It paints a different picture as Petty has some significant advantages. His father was basically the first real NASCAR driver and established and extremely successful racing team, Petty Enterprises, which handed him cards and support staff on a silver platter. The crew is so invested in Petty winning. They rushed the field at the 1976 Daytona. 500 to push him across the Finish Line. While 2-ton cars were blowing by at 140 mph.

Get push the car while they're active race car flying around. Hi guys. We got a new rule for this season was house on his way on a team trying to get support when it came to the cars. Petty had the best of the best and Pierson was forced to buy cars from other drivers and build them himself in Pearson. Second year in 1961. He quickly saw the dangers of buying and racing your own car early in the season, Pearson lost control and smashed his car into the guardrail. When he got back to the pit, to assess the damage. He realized, I haven't been in a crash Ben Pearson dropped out. He moved to Spartanburg South Carolina and took a job as a roofer, to support his wife and two sons as he passed by. He turned his mind to roofing tiles and stop worrying about NASCAR. That's super sad. It just has to give up his dream cuz he can't find funding. I mean that's that's so common racing.

Play, I mean more. So today man. It's so expensive. I was thinking about that yesterday, you know, being here in Southern California and being in the car industry.

I know a lot of people who just have a lot of money, you know, because

you can have Leslie, trust funds, things like that.

And just being someone who doesn't have the cash to let go racing. Like that is a site kind of it's It's it sucks in the kids, right? And you're taking your family for your call to the Daytona 500 race. If I can, if I wreck this thing, I can't take Suzy to school. Even if that was like a second vehicle. It's like rebuilding race cars. It's so expensive, just before the world, 600 race of May 1961 Ray, Fox and John, Missoni a highly respected engine builder. In car owner, lost their usual driver Barrel, Derringer due to a contract dispute.

Joe Littlejohn, eraser from Spartanburg suggested that they hire Pearson to run their freshly built 1961. Pontiac Fox wasn't sure if he should trust the 26, year-old newbie racer, but he and my Sony took a chance on the Rookie of the Year. At this time. He's doing all right. He's raced in. NASCAR few times. We should go back to naming kids like they did in the sixties or whatever. These guys were born like the names better back. Then I think you know, for race car drivers. Yeah, too many Aiden's and Brayden and Jayden's nowadays.

Get him out of here. Didn't need my son Edward Jones. Little John made me think of one of my favorite background actors. I guess. He's the guy that kills Uncle Ben and Spider-Man is in the real guys. Name is Michael papajohn.

Nice, I don't see how that's my problem.

Was someone else's car at his disposal. David to focus on driving and not checking fluid levels. When it came time to qualify Pearson, laid, down a shockingly fast third-place, qualifying run, just behind Richard Petty, and Joe Weatherly on race day, Pearson took an early lead and held on the first place for quite some time. But bilap, 311 311. Caught up in the chase is on over the next. Twenty laps Petty close the gap by more than six seconds. And Pierson was getting nervous and has Deep Pockets failed him in the 61 Plymouth Fury is motor exploded because of the strain, he was putting on it trying to catch Pearson with Patty limping away. It was wide-open sailing for David Pearson. He was three laps ahead of next closest driver Fireball Roberts when he ran over some debris and blew a tire.

Pearson kept the wheel steady and guided his Pontiac to the final two laps at 20 mph to claim the victory. It was his first big NASCAR win in his first real encounter with the king and you left a serious impression on him.

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As a 1960s platter long Pearson found himself on more established teams and his equipment problem was being settled yet. Heard half as many races. Has Petty what is winning percentages were way higher by 1963? The Rivalry was heating up and fans are starting to notice. The patient's 200 was the first time they both landed together in the top 10, but they weren't in each other's faces yet. Sure they have that dustup in 1961, but now they were side-by-side for entire races and Petty realize Pearson wasn't going away. In his wins weren't just a fluke, the 1963 sandlapper 200 was their first real Showdown.

It was a sweltering August day in Columbia, South Carolina that he was gunning for his 25th. NASCAR Grand National when and Pearson had nothing to lose except his profitable roofing business. His wife who said, hey, if you don't cut, hey, I've got to take Jenny to school tomorrow. They traded positions plenty of times, for petty couldn't shake Pearson. But by the end of the 200, laps Petty managed to keep his lead and bag the victory by 9 seconds. This was the first of more than 60 for a second finishes for the drivers in 1964. They finished first and second, so often that fans were forgetting. All the other drivers names at the Richmond. NASCAR cut Pearson. Beat Petty at the Nashville, Superspeedway Petty, beat Pearson.

At the Confederate 300 does navel piercing took the Victory and on and on and on the only question left at the end of the race was who got third place and that was Fireball or Dale Johnson over there, isn't it? By the end of the person at smooth out his support structures. In car situation. He set the tone for the 1969 season by bring the first driver to ever qualify faster than 190 mph mean while Petty was still bummed about his less-than-stellar 1968 season. He decided to take drastic measures and allowed himself to be wooed away from its Chrysler car deal. How do you sign a one-year deal? With Ford to drive their limited edition? Ford Torino, Talladega?

The new 17 ft long 3800 lb to Reno with considered to be kind of aerodynamic by 1969, standards and gave Petty, a bit of an edge. Of course, the season end with Pearson and Patty and wanted to. But in the run-up they were neck-and-neck the whole way, Pearson scored 11 big winds and its holman-moody Torino Cobra while Petty, grab 10 wins in his experimental Torino Talladega. Pearson. Also took the pole position a whopping 13 times that season but wound up in the top five forty-two times while Patty took six poles and only 31 top 5, but Pearson took the championship at the end of the year and it was be as last. This is a time where they figured out that are dynamics for important. So you'll notice on the history know is that they've got a really long, sloping Fastback design, which you know, touchdown on drag and one of the reasons that

Petty left Chrysler was that they didn't have as an aerodynamic are. So in response to that Dodge. They worked on a charger called the charger. 500 for Daytona 500. And what they did was they made a Fastback kind of like this the windshield, you know on those Chargers that the c-pillar is like he's big pillars in the windshield of can I sucked in a little bit so you can get to see pillars. It looks really cool, but it's not aerodynamic at all. So what they did is they redesigned it put, you know had that had the rear glass, inlaid with a ft pillars. Look out. There's a lot more hair than a man could get it done, didn't quite do the trick to Petrino could so that's when they started working on the Charger Daytona and the Plymouth Superbird, which will probably talk about in a little bit. You know, the big Wing cars. Super are Dynamic super pointy noses. Big old Wing in the back on touchable. So the 1969.

Season was special. And at the time, no one even knew it would be the last season. Pearson would ever run a full schedule by 1969. He won a lot of trophies and decided to slow down, but it was tough to get a sponsorship as a part-time driver and buy 1972, Pearson hadn't won a Super Speedway race in a few years. And a lot of people who are saying his career is over, even though he's just 37 and it's 60 wins and three championships to his name. Wow.

I've only got like 32 in this to my name is Glenwood from Woods racing needed. Someone to fill a.j. Foyt seat because he was heading back to Indy car, competition, and Pierson was a guy. He wanted behind the wheel. So they sign some papers and went racing. The first race with the Woods Brothers, for Pearson was a 1972 Rebel 400d for fairly low because new team to take a full season to mail together and get into a successful Groove, but right at the gate Pearson took pole at the rebel. 407, first place for 202. The 293 lapse by the end of the race, who's leading Petty, buy an entire left and took the chequered flag. It was a bit of a shocking win for the part-time racer at a brand new team, but it shouldn't have been surprising from David Pearson. It was during this season at Pearson earned the nickname. The fox because he was so Adept at using which race has to compete in.

You know, because foxes are also very Adept at using which race has to compete in that makes sense. That when Pearson's crew showed up. He was probably going to win from 1972 to 1978. Pearson Patty, went head-to-head, 141 X, Pearson 143 of those battles and Patti just 28 during that time Pearson also had 14 more top-five finishes and Petty, even though we competed in way last races, interesting the Rivalry had given, NASCAR the Boost in attendance at it, need it since the oil crisis started in, NASCAR lowered their lap Townsend, wiggle around, and knock and regulations, fan start tuning out. The NFL was starting to really ramp up with players like OJ Simpson, Terry Bradshaw Joe Greene. In Walter Payton showing up all over television.

NASCAR started going after TV viewers, and part of that was putting the drivers out there. For interviews to excite fans, Richard Petty slid, right into this role with these, but Pearson was more subdued, Pearson wasn't one to showboat or get involved with drama. He would give his post-race interviews and then go home to his wife and sons. He would not stop talking about his roofing business. That's why they wouldn't show him on TV. Yeah. He actually had a promo car where you just glued shingles onto the top of his car. You know, you really want to make sure you have the right shingles for your climate. Yeah. He tried to justify it by saying it was good Arrow, but it actually was very poor Arrow.

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As a 1970s, bleed into the 1980s NASCAR exploded in popularity and part of the reason was the new generation of racers be like Dale, Earnhardt, Darrell Waltrip, and Billy. Elliot. We're all over TV and all over the track at the same time. Water came in hot in 1981 and 1982. We need 12 races and the Series championship Earnhardt was dubbed. The Intimidator and Bill Elliott was nicknamed. Million-dollar bill because he made history by winning the first ever. Winston million million dollar bonus to any driver. That could win three out of the top four races of NASCAR. That's a huge accomplishment. That's a big payday.

Nowadays, I don't know. I think she don't know what the NASCAR pants are pretty for golf like that. They have pretty high profits. Like when you see golfer, like, no way. That's why people play golf. Yeah, that's why dad's force their kids to play golf or tennis because if they can win millions and millions of dollars in one tournament.

Penny fit right in with this crowd, while Pearson took a backseat Pearson showed up and raced like hell and he kept winning, but Patty was aiming for points and championships. The full-time competition for a first and second place finish with over for the two old racers.

1980 to 1986 Pearson jump between teams and cars. And showed up half a dozen times a year to qualify and race. It seem like his old three or four. The rates have been lost penny was stacking up. All of his went in pursuing goals, that would put him in the history books. But he too had lost the thrill of it all. But without piercing in his rearview mirror, Petty looked like he was just going through the motions in 1986 Pearson ran a few races in his own self-funded car. His final race was the 1986 Champion spark plug for a hundred. That's an awesome race name. He qualified at 15th and finished in 10th, respectable ranking for anyone, but David Pearson Earnhardt, Bill, Elliott, and Darrell Waltrip all landed in the top five in Richard Petty, finished 18th, blow a few years. Later 1992, Petty also, retired while Pearson made his Announcement by just not showing up to any more races Petty, how the year-long self-congratulatory to are you glad hand fans and signed autographs as he stepped.

That's like Elton John. I mean, he's the king man. You got to say thanks the fans on of itself in graduate or necessarily but it's a 10.

But again, like he's a PR guy as a marketing guy like Kimi. Raikkonen announced his retirement this week.

He's probably not going to be doing that, like.

Glad handing and signing autographs. He probably can be like thank you and then goes to his yacht afterwards. That's coming yet.

Where is a guy like Lewis Hamilton? Who knows the game? You know, he would do that. He would be more involved with the fans. Yeah, how many seasons do you have? Do you think Hamilton has left? His contract goes to 2023? I don't know if Louis is one of those guys that likes a like Mercedes. Say Toto, Wolff leaves Mercedes. Do do v. I n, n Lewis, Toto Wolff, turn off Lisa, Mercedes in like the Dream Team kind of disperses. I don't know if Louis is one of the guys that like goes to, like a smaller team. Say, like what if Lewis went to like Williams or something like that? I don't know. I don't know if he is one of the guys, I would stick around and look at slower car just to be in the sport. You know, I think he's going to retire and then do like 24 Hours of Le Monde 7 like, that be cool. If I was if I was lowest, I would go out on top.

Don't Let It Fade out and have fun to the new car because that's another challenge, you know, that's like Hey, we're leveling the playing field and now it's who's the best race like driver. So nice. He's like 36 is reaction times are slow but he still looks so good. Anyway, sorry to turn this. NASCAR podcast into a F1 podcast, my bad. Overall David Pearson beat, Richard Petty 152 times and Patti beef Pearson 127 times. They both set a multitude of records that any driver will be proud of their legacy in the NASCAR lore is fully secure.

25 years after his retirement, Richard Petty was asked to be their honorary pace car driver at Darlington Speedway. NASCAR prepared at fully refurbished 1960 replica of his own number 43 Plymouth Belvedere with the ancient motor roaring Petty. Push the car hard.

As we honor a pace car driver, he was supposed to return to the pits after one lap.

Papetti's being Richard, Petty. He overstayed his welcome and done. The Belvedere. Ignoring the officials are black. Flagging him for a violation and he went for a second lap. Hell, yeah, this is awesome. He drove the old Plymouth hard and over the radio. The other drivers laughed and joked about Petty going Renegade.

But there's a moment there in the video where you can see a smile turn somber, as he looks into, the rearview mirror at the Modern stock cars behind him. It was almost as if he was looking for the front end of David Pearson. 61 Pontiac pursuing him down the track. Dang.

There it is. One of the greatest rivalries in NASCAR history.

I did not know that Pearson had so many wins. Isn't that crazy? Just based on how you like one guy hated dealing with Preston. It's almost like you don't know about him as hell like he obviously I mean, I think most Pearson like you can't really separate the stories of Pierson and pedi, right? That's pretty awesome. And now I going forward and you know anytime I think about Patty I'm going to be thinking up here soon as well. I hope you do too because you just listen to pass gas. Thank you very much, baby. Thank Jerry for stepping at. This is a lot of fun. I like I love reading these I love listening to you guys. Tell me these stories. Could you learn a little bit? And it's super interesting. So now I got to go and do a lot more research on.

On Pierce and I'm I'm impressed with this guy's pretty cool. You're ready Google. I'm about to Google it up energy right now. If you if you guys enjoyed this check out bumper to bumper on our main Channel. Jerry's to host, does a great job. They do a lot of cool engineering and racing breakdowns. If you want followed. What is it? What's your, what's your handle name? Jeremiah Burton, or I'm going to take that now, too. Nice, the text and the talks. I'm doing the chicks in the talks. My name is Silence of the Lamb. De check me out.

Will you and rat in college? That was not now? Thank God. I mean, I like, I, like my couch in like, not doing anything. I'm that kind of person. I can't. I'm richer, I'm Pearson. Okay. I want to get home and not talk to anyone unless it's your dad's. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I know. Thanks.

Knowing, are you a petty or a Pearson?

I mean that was Patty before we did this, you know, but now I'm piercing I feel

Yeah, I think I'm more of like a I think I'm like a lightning scrotum.

You know, they've classic, NASCAR racer.

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