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Episode 016: We Need Answers
Black Men Think Podcast
Today's episode of the black man thing podcast was recorded May 28th 2020 are we wanted to go on record and say that there were audio glitches during the processing of this recording however, because the conversation was so timely and important we decided to air the entire conversation as is. So are we do apologize in advance for some of the audio glitches that you will hear? However, we know the importance of our voice and that our voice needed to be heard at this exact moment.
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I know I usually ask a question right here.
But how I'm feeling right now?
We need answers.
Yeah, like like we were Jitney dances.
No more asking questions. We've been asking questions for too long. We need answers.
I'll let you talk to him.
wow, baby, rest in peace rest in peace G Floyd
my goodness, I mean
r i p
Floyd Mike Brown
Marlene is too many is too many in the name, bro.
And those are the only two names that have been televised Bingo how many philando Castile how many how many of us?
I have not even seen the the record button on a screen you don't and or or got national attention.
Because if it's the countless numbers.
Mangos, this one did this this this this hurts in a lot of ways and what's interesting is how it's like Groundhog Day.
I mean we're here again.
And it seems like and it seems I will be at here again, and it feels like we'll be here again like to your point JT and I we need some answers.
And I think we need weed we got we got to get out of there. There's something there's something different that we got to be expecting and demanding at this point. We got to come at this one different. I mean, that's that's the key word. That's the key word. You just said those demanding.
Yeah, I know. There's nothing less a keyword. There's nothing less in this moment. We demanded this is this this is where we demand we demand absolutely something and I would actually say we demand everything at this point. There is there is no idea. There is no law. There is no idea was talking about some
Well, you know, let's ask questions and let's get the facts. Nah.
What we know in this unfortunate instance with Brother Floyd is at a white cup.
Had his whole life. I mean we're focusing on the fact that he was like the whole entire body the whole gravitational pull of the upper aspect of the body.
Into a man's neck on the concrete.
That's not a picture, bro.
That's not a picture of like our very existence in history in this country.
That's the picture.
I mean, yeah, that's the warcraft. That's the work right or Marlon. That's exactly the point. That's the war cry like if if you can't see that photo and that video.
First off like shed a tear or tremble tremble a little bit or get that little like that looked a little like that little like scratching his throat cuz you trying to hold back some of what a little bit of like when your heart start racing a little bit where you get you where you where you know, you get intense and you know, you getting angry if something doesn't move in you with that. Yes, that was really really really wrong with you. But that's the point that's that's that's America in a nutshell on so many levels and I think this is where we demand some answers and what that answer should be is. All right. You know what?
Black folks enough is enough. Something's got to give we have to figure something out here.
Amount of you guys saw cuz I obviously wasn't going a lot of different directions with this conversation.
But this one hurts.
But you know, it's interesting like the University of Minnesota said that they will discontinue their relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department. And I really really taken aback by that actually because like JD, I think that gets to what you're saying like that's an answer that was that was Swift. I mean like that my wife would it was listening showed me that and that's like what two three days after or however long in a very Swift manner that they think like they don't need no include Susan like the oldest Factory then and then let's find out the truth and all this other girl. I know we saw that video now, we don't rock with that.
So therefore we will we will not have a relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department. I mean, that's an answer right this.
Is dim the depressing honestly, man, because he feels you feel so helpless in a situation like that because for one, I mean at the end of the day and another life has been lost and there's technically nothing that you can do about that life. That was lost like that life is is gone, right and once you once the details start rolling out like it you see video footage of this man not resisting arrest at all at all.
And you know what the check it was all over a check.
Yeah, I'm not trying to presuppose that y'all know it but it was over a check. The clerk said that he thought it was a faulty check.
suspicion of a faulty check
which is not a that's a non violent crime. Number one, right?
So why would a nonviolent crime but forget about the false accusation all of that stuff, right? Cuz
It's a non-volatile offense. So you show up as a police officer. When you get a call for a man that is attempting to to fraud, you know attempted fraud. I guess would be that I'm not a police officer. I'm not in the court of law, but I'm saying here is a tenth of a fraud of something forgery.
So you show up and I don't know if y'all be like I really watch the video.
Write the video was from a Chinese restaurant. It was there video camera. So I'm looking at the video and the thing that really pissed me off about the video. It wasn't that he was not resisting. It was the fact that they passed a whole police car just to walk this man across the street to somewhere else. Like I have him in handcuffs. He's not resisting. He's actually sitting down and there is a police vehicle right in front of you why you just can't see him in the car at that point. I don't understand that. You can't justify to me that there is a police vehicle right there police vehicle failure of community policing
This is this is the idea of people who put on.
They're law enforcement Garb and use it for purposes other than what it's meant to be for the technically peace officers.
Craftily in a First Responders, by the way, so when you have a man that is laying on the ground whether or not you have him in handcuffs or Not Your Role is a first responder. We should change every ounce of your current strategy when you realize that this gentleman on the ground cannot breathe.
You understand like you a first responder Your Role he posed. No threat. He was he was already. I mean if you want to take it there, like if he if there are those who want to take it there. He was already subdued. So like let's let's entertain some of that nonsense out here that some of these folks is out here talk about
he wasn't a threat. He wasn't resisting. He was already handcuffed. He was on the ground. He was subdued and there were literally four cops within a foot of each other.
in one man
I don't know. There was a cohort of people offering Injustice to another black man.
and this cohort was in blue uniforms that are meant to protect and serve, you know, I mean
I'm just going to say it like this guy's like I stand with John boyega in okay, and and and I'm not going to repeat what he said, but I stayed with everything you said.
you know because
to be honest with you, bro.
We're at a point.
You can feel it like this is different like this is this is I don't know. I mean, I know it's listen.
It ain't different voices. The main the reason I say is different is not because I feel like this is NE.
Greater or any different from any situation that we've seen whether the cameras have been honored to off.
I'm saying that.
I believe our community has hit a point where we are fed up with tired and I can speak I can speak on that because I'm speaking from where I'm at, bro. I'm tired and I'm not tired like like I'm ready to you know throw in the towel tired. Like I'm done. I can't take it anymore tired. I'm tired like
Like na, what's what's up? Like what y'all want to do tired, you know, and and I take myself to be somewhat of a peaceful guy.
You know I'm saying.
I can't speak for everybody in the reality is communities of people that look like us and those of us who empathize with us are done.
And I believe the response is going to be a lot different than maybe anything that we seen in our time other than the only thing I can think of is Rodney King close to what I believe. We're probably going to see from this and some of the other stuff is going to come out as political season there tons of is tons of footage that's going to arrive because the media will eat this a lot of reasons. We all know that we're all aware of that. But the fact of the matter is there was a Amana black man on the ground with a weight body on his neck until he could not breathe anymore. There has to be a
very intensely aggressive response to that because that's the only way they go here's
tell me why me. Why me why the black police officer? I think he was actually a is either Somalian or Elsa mollien descent who killed it was charged with the murder of the white woman in Minneapolis. I think just last year got 12 and 1/2 years.
So anyways interest in the end, you know, like
following that there's still a lot of inconclusive no uncertain, you know, without a shadow of a doubt type of situation in that and still he got 12 and a half years and I'm not I'm not weighing in on either side. I'm just saying a cop got 12 and a half years. They say Somalia black African cop got 12 and 1/2 years for killing a white woman.
And the Minneapolis Police Department is trying to like I mean they trying to pull in they can't today like they just they don't have nothing like they don't they don't really have anything on this one and this is ugly. I mean furthermore this stuff about the cop himself, I mean
It just there's no I mean he's a bigot. He's a racist he's had mold to pull in fractions complaints has has killed unarmed blacks and Latinos already like this is this is a part of his like repertoire of how he goes about his day today and in his duty
This is where you have to question on so many levels the process for approving people to be Law Enforcement Officers. But also the ongoing process that should be happening for reviewing you know, who these people are.
Because you know if there's not enough attention being paid to the people that have badges on it, you know, we're not going to sit on here on this podcast and say, you know, if all cops and all this kind of stuff we know there are some some very genuinely, you know, it house walking around with integrity and in and doing their jobs with Integrity that is the reality that the truth right now and that's the part in the silence is deafening is putting a whole neck on a black man and kills him. I don't hear no Union out here.
You're real quiet right now. Y'all are real quiet right now. So here's the thing. You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you cannot face reality wrong is wrong and no matter who does it or says it.
I mean, he said a lot of other things ain't go there right now. But like I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean come on come on, come on.
That that's the answer to that that that that is that is an answer. That's an answer that I need for y'all to actually say, you know what we do. We don't condone that behavior. We condemn it actually in any one of our force that does that and they give that's what you're about na when I when I rocking with you, we're not really we're not what that's not what we are about.
You know, I sit back and think about it, right because I know that people hear this in the the irresponsible responses people think that is always it's police versus black people. Right? And I do want to make something very clear. I've had family members be police officers have had friends be police officers.
police officer hit as a blanket statement because I tell you right now somebody breaking my house. I'm calling the police if if I get in an accident, I'm calling the police, right the police are dead or protect and serve and so they have a purpose here. But the problem is you have police officers who just don't know how to act that try to take advantage of the badge and try to act like they are Ann and I'll be all like judge executioner. It don't work like that bro. Like you have to you and I get it if you know, if you have a conversation with a police officer, one of the first things they'll say is that you don't know what it feels like to be on the line and don't know how your life is going to end out at the end of the day right? There is no no. No, my grandfather was in the Army the Navy like family members have been in on in the line of duty. I got an aunt that just retired. I got cut.
Cousin I just retired from the military and you know folks in law enforcement. Also, that's a special calling if you're called to do that. Like if that is what you feel your obligation and duty to this to these United States into this democracy the understanding that comes with that wait to you can't have it both ways. You're running toward the fire. And if you run to where the fire, you know what actually you can get a burn.
Right, you know, I'm not as think I do feel that one thing that has to be done across the board and while I know we talked about this and they still have yet to do this. I think that there needs to be a policy and place that anyone that wants to be a police officer has to at least do two to three years in their Community when they first start. Oh, yeah, meaning that if you don't live in that neighborhood, you can't be a police officer in in this Zone. You got at least be in the neighborhood living that song just like, you know, how what they say with politicians like when a person is running for a certain district and they don't live in that District all hell breaks loose. How you going to run for this for you don't even live here for police officers. What's up? I think it's not enough to just live there. I think you need to serve in your community.
Criteria for that person even if it's not at the at the top of their just started their career, you know, but there should be a requirement for any law enforcement officers to serve in the community that are stationed in that deliver whatever that looks like because if they don't know the culture the people they don't have an appreciation for that. Then I can be able to serve those people the right way. You're always going to look at them as you know, I always but I'm just saying like there's a lot of opportunity for you to misread. The people that are around you if you're looking at them through the lens of a blue badge not as people.
if he'll isn't it, so it's kind of like there's always like some comedy around in movies or TV shows when that white person in for the first time goes like a black Baptist church and they sending people play praise the Lord not getting the spirit and how there's always looks like what is going on and it kind of feel like
Hey, but that's just how it go down in our church. So but you wouldn't know that if you've never been in that church.
So it's like that same situation. You won't know what those serious those moments are because like in that situation I can tell you that it could have been one of those situations where it's like. Oh, yeah, that's just the only Floyd man. You know, he just be ran away. He may he made from the email from time to time trying to pass a bad check, but I pull up on her and be like what what you doing? Come on, man, and I get you. I guess you're done with the situation.
It's over. We're in over with you said I'm saying like we all know those people in our community that we grew up and where was like that like we were talking about on some of our episodes about like the black barbershop. Like I remember literally the the people that used to come in and sell all the goods all the shoes all the jeans all the DVDs all the what's the name and we ask no questions. We knew what time it was if all of our listeners, I know, you know, I know you know what I mean when I say this, but we didn't question it because we knew it was coming from
But if you in there in the first time you see somebody coming over there and they got like Don so tired, you know DVDs is newest Jordans all his play. This is just how it goes down. And that's the spot on that spot on you got to know that you're releasing.
Instead of right now. I don't want to hear none of that patriotism talk like I don't want to hear you. I don't want to hear it like at the end of the day.
We are being oppressed as clear as day in the face of everyone in America like clear as day.
Don't look me in my eye and tell me how supposed to feel you don't know you don't wear this skin everyday, you don't walk around with the weight of anybody in with the skin. You don't know so don't tell me what I'm supposed to feel and tell me how I can possibly think about what you know, how they're supposed to respond when they're out there protesting and when they're faced with certain responses from police forces that turn protest in to ride.
I mean, I'm not here saying whether or not I I agree or disagree with those moments, but I am here saying that that is the response you get because you didn't hear us when we were trying to save people. I mean that part right there bro. I mean you have you seen have you seen I mean have you seen the photo of I mean, obviously there's a photo of this cop that that was kneeling on this this this man's neck. And then there was the Colin Kaepernick kneeling and we can go in on that all day. That's the obvious obviously but like have you seen the photo of at as we are in covid right now and remember a couple weeks ago they were the air quote armed Patriots?
Who stormed the capital of Michigan iron stormed the thing in the face of literally spitting in the face of cops got the straps?
And the cops were standing down in in in in in stagnant. Style. Actually your gas rubber bullets and mace.
If I do want to I do want to bring up this point to just to give some some more context of the conversation. I don't know if any of y'all visited mini Annapolis before but it has a very huge Somalian and Ethiopian. It's like this is huge brother in populations in them in in in in the world actually outside of the their respective countries.
and and I mean the culture there like is
only reason why I bring this up is because you you know where you're at, right? Like I have no doubt in my mind that these cops walked into that situation ready to cause trouble it wasn't a let me let me
Let me calm the situation down it was walking in with ego trying to be the man in a situation that didn't require you to be the man.
And it's one of those things were made like bro. It is so disheartening and it's so easy to get emotional and upset because you know that this stuff is not happening by accident anymore. We can't we can't justify and say that all it was an accident, but I'll let you just can't you can't trigger that in my mind and make me even like slightly think that this was the accidental death. And the reason why that's that. Those are those are those are those are armed forces.
That's true. That's just like that's to instill fear disrespectful disrespectful to to black people as a whole and I'm going to take it there because these police officer know what they're doing. And I think I think the root of a lot of it is fear.
Like I think that they are scared of us.
And we are scared them rightfully so they can get out if it's hot in the kitchen. I ain't trying to hear you brother Bernard and it only and only cuz my mama listen to this I'm not going to say what you know, I would normally say they are offline, but I don't want you and I don't like I'm not trying to make sure that take that uniform off if you're not about that action to wear like that could be what you get if you go in that line of duty.
Because what I'm saying is there's so many assumptions. I mean yo, like bro. I'm about to take it there man. Look.
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Crystal and I are I get off work early come home. She's finished work when I'm hungry. Let's go get something to eat with here in DC Maryland actually have the time Hyattsville and we go over to this spot over in this kind of like a little historical district next to University of Maryland College Park and old-school arguing. This is like quintessentially like a Athens or like an Auburn or college towns. What is just all types of young people all over the place, and houses. I mean, you know, Georgia Tech Georgia state is like all that.
I pull up we do the thing get in the car and drive away stop at a stop sign look down the street. I see a cop posted don't think nothing of it, but I think something of it so y'all get what I'm saying just by making that statement pull off lights go on. It was I told Crystal as I go become let's just see how this plays out two officers one last Latino officer in white officer officer on the driver side by side and then white officer on the passenger side mind you they see me and I don't have tents on my SUV. Y'all know what my SUV looks like. It's white. It's what you know,
they have their hands on their guns getting out the car literally and I told Crystal as I'm looking in our side view mirrors as I do not make a move don't look really quickly. Don't move. Don't quit your body any kind of way. Look at what they got going on and she looks and she's like, oh my God, they have their hands on their guns and I was like, yes, just keep calm. We going to be cool.
Cop pulls up where you coming from officer. Is there a problem because I don't you know, you don't just assume the premise like you don't just stop me to ask me where I'm coming from and I'm like, you know, who is there something going on? Like what's what's the problem with you coming from? I said it once again. Oh, yeah, you you rolled through that stop sign back there license is the registration and I said, you're pulling me over because I roll could doctor you perceive that I rode through the stop sign here. You know, what what's going on? Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah just license and registration, please and I was like, why do you all have your hands on your gun? And they got so defensive so defensive meanwhile the other cops still on my own Crystal side, like he didn't go all the way up to the door. He went up to the light back passenger rear passenger side behind her just in case he had to like make a move which was very indicative of the posture that they
Add going into the situation we talkin about you.
cocaine in at 10
meanwhile, how how many videos have we seen of cops responses to extremely dangerous life literally life-threatening situations from with white people are the ones that are they gave this mother if you white.
This is what I need you to do right now.
I need your voice.
If you if you're listening to any of this and if you believe because you have to look yourself in the mirror to say this kind of stuff you either believe right is right and wrong is wrong. Are you a liar. Right?
So if you believe that right is right, what I need you to do is to open your lips and speak about the things that you know are wrong as a regard to how people that look like you treat people that look like us be bold with it.
Don't talk to us about it. By the way. We don't need everyday. We don't need that people that look like you police officer. I need for him to get that energy. I need for him to be uncomfortable. I need for you all to make your white counterparts uncomfortable with racism and bigotry add a layer to it. All right, because shout out to Denzel Washington. There's a recent video that came out where he literally stopped his car got out of a vehicle to put himself in the middle of a situation where a homeless black man who is acting somewhat irate as many homeless people. Do you know depending on where their mental state is he was being approached by two or three police officers and obviously the situation appeared that it could get, you know, a little rough he put himself in the middle of the cops and the black man who was homeless to diffuse the situation.
The issue that this black guy even if you left in handcuffs was going to leave with his life if you white I need you to use your privilege to do that because guess what there's nothing for you to be afraid of when a police officer walks up is nothing for you to be afraid of your car and you get in the middle of a of a very heightened situation. You know, why I don't repeat that repeat that bro. I don't think they heard that you to be afraid of.
Because your skin color does not look like mine so you if you are a person out there if you claim that you are or a stand-up person, you know, obviously, you know that you have no not a racist racist bone in your body, you know, whatever that narrative is for you at the end of the day if you believe truth is truth right is right and wrong is wrong then use your privilege to help put yourself in the middle of situations that you probably often see where you are not the victim and diffuse the situation for us on our behalf. Regardless, if we do something wrong put yourself in the situation and make sure we get to at least make it back to see our family that day.
That's that's America right now. This is the reality that when I leave the house and I'm driving down the street. I honestly have to think about the fact of what if I get pulled over. How am I going to like Christa said, how am I going to have to position myself so that guns don't come out hot and lazy
that's not your reality.
So what are you going to do?
That there's a pulse there for a reason.
Because you really need to think about that.
There is there's so many frustrations emotions all of that men, but the real is just like Moses said you got to think about that.
the things that we have to deal with and truth be told
some of these things as black men. We haven't even been able to properly translate that to our wives and our spouses and our girlfriends or whatever.
Because that's something that is just being a black man in America bro. It is something that so difficult to explain.
Think about it in the past what two months.
We can't jog.
We can't cash a check rest in peace Ahmad Arbor.
Do you see what I'm saying? And why these things might you know, you can find you can find all the things that you want to like people can pain in the narrative and find the things that they want to strip it down to the Core.
the two actions that calls
craziness murder in this world was running.
And trying to cash a check think about that from anybody exercising.
And cashing a check now. Just think about that don't chew things. Right. This is really think about that those two things put yourself in the position of jogging.
I'm going to cash a check.
And think about have you ever had to deal with anything while jogging?
And trying to cash a check think about that.
I did once you think about that think about the other things that have happened that we haven't even touched on.
It's just like there's a responsibility.
That white people you might not be ready to have but you got to have it.
And we can talk about the responsibility of black people as well. But as white people y'all got to do it.
y'all got to do it because
the best way that I can sum this up, right?
We're looking at diluting. We're looking at all of the disruption that's happening right now in Minneapolis and while some of it like I said, I can't be on either side of right or wrong or what's happening, but I will say this just like the great comedian Chris Rock said
I understand Fair.
I can't tell if it's right or wrong, but I understand.
Someway somehow attention has to be we have to get your attention. And if this is the way we get your attention, then it's time for you to wake up. Everyone telling us to wake up. It's time for y'all to wake up. Wake up and look like we're having a y'all been on the zoom in this week and they know are and people just happy-go-lucky like ain't that happened this week?
And there's this week Chris in MO. Write how many I've been on meetings this week with white people and everything is just like I didn't happen this week. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Man likes a problem bro. Y'all know y'all know. I'm in a new employment situation right now and I can say that I had a number of people go out of their way to make very heartfelt uncomfortable conversations for themselves to impart upon me that they are an ally and that they get it in terms of that. They don't get it.
And that whatever waited I'm going to process this or where I will respond or hat, you know is obviously a professional standpoint there here for whatever it is and supported and yeah, that's also that's that's the part though.
Because I said it I said it I said it actually in a post at work I said until we can Mo I think you said this one of you guys until you look yourself in the mirror and have that deep conversation with yourself and then go outside and literally every person that you see see yourself in that person as a human.
That's that's when we get that's when we get those answers.
I don't kneel on the neck of another real person can be made from another human because I know if my if if I had someone's knee on my neck what that would feel like in that would kill me. Like you won't do that when you think that way.
I don't pull up ready to drop a gun because like if someone pulls up with me ready to draw together and what that's like, I just don't think we see ourselves enough in each other that a man that's real.
It was a video that that Brian posted I think earlier, I believe it was Brian if it wasn't one of them it was in our group chat of the I want to make sure I get his name, correct Donald Williams. He witnessed Jorge Flores arrest right and murder. And so I want to point out that this is someone who is he's trained and UFC and MMA fighting to do damage right that they just call it what it is and that the amount of restraint that his brother had to to possess when witnessing someone that was in dire need of help, right?
Why can't police officers white police officer show that same restraint?
This is a guy who's trained to do. We've all seen MMA fights UFC fights with know the damage that's done in that ring. This is someone who who was there who could do it with no problem. Think about that and he showed restraint
why can a police officer show that same type of restraint?
Just ask yourself day interview a police officer you listening to this episode. We want to hear from you. This is a two-way conversation bro. Like the only way that we get real progression. We have to have these conversations and if you are police officer and you believe in doing things the right the right way, then your voice should be the loudest that we here right now. Yeah, you should be setting the record straight not just for for anybody else that's listening. But it within your own Precinct within your own pee making sure your own adventure with your own ranks. You should make sure that your colleagues are all on the same page right now.
There should be some serious discussions happening within police precincts right now to ensure that the purpose and reason why you are there the purpose and reason why you exist is exactly what you took an oath to a nothing more.
And let me say this.
If you are a cop if you have if you walk around with a badge on and a gun on your hip.
And if you are not willing to step in and stop one of your fellow police officers from making a mistake and you're just as guilty. I'm glad you brought that point. But thankfully all four of those cops got fired in Minneapolis because under the last situation that happened in Minneapolis, what activists were able to press and Lobby to get that like basically a pasta passive or passive.
Like a law basically where if cops are present and they don't act.
Like they don't if they don't interject then they are also culpable.
Absolute as it should be.
Any one of those covers tennis object.
Any one of them bro. I said all three of the other should have
nothing nevermind about it easy could have just said like a bro, chill or like hold up one second. Let's pick him up so they could have did it very subtle. Where did not showing up the car if that was so if that was a concern a a let him up real quick.
Let's put them in the car.
those simple words
cuz the guys that I want to point out that the guy is not only handcuffed. He's pinned down to the ground. Where is he going to go?
Where's he going to go?
There's not one not two not three. There's 4 cops within a foot of his man that is handcuffed and pinned down to the ground. Where is he going to go?
You can't justify that brother's murder. We should be playing on this show that was murder ain't no gray area. It doesn't make sense. And the reason why it doesn't make sense because it's wrong.
You can't justify wrong, bro. I'm sorry. It's just there anybody can see it and it's going to take a huge responsibility. Yes. Those costs was fired. I get that but now there is there needs to be a indictment and charges guy with murder.
That's what's left and that has not happened as of this recording.
It has not happened.
When the mayor comes out and say that you need to be arrested, bro.
He have to say nothing.
That speaks volumes.
They got to do the right thing, man.
retired fed up with angry. We have a right to be don't question that question how we make it better.
Don't try to correct our emotions right now. Don't cry. Don't try to correct people who are who are protesting. Don't try to correct the people that are rioting they're upset.
How do we correct the problem answers?
So I will tell you is just like boiling but like a pot.
It'll boil it'll boil hair. Looks like nothing's happening, but eventually he'll spill over.
Listen to I want to I want to end our I want to cap off a conversation with a quote from Langston Hughes.
Because Negroes sweet and docile meek.
humble and kind
beware the day they change their mind.
Is it no, I don't have no Black Ops for tonight, but white thought is talk to your counterpart.
Talk to your counterparts and hold them accountable.
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