What if Poland Conquered Russia?
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Hello guys, Nick hear back from the episode of backed up past history. Podcast proposal. What if scenario about a country have never even talked about once Poland. And she going to talk about what is Poland, had conquered Russia. So for a little bit of background contacts for the scenario between the time. Of 1598 and 6013. There was a time. In Russian history, known as the time of troubles. During the time of troubles. There was a great power struggle between multiple zarzour jars that are fighting for overall power in the Russian area. There was around 3 or 3 total stars that came around. There was the first so interesting Baxter. The Bee Tree was actually fake. It wasn't, it wasn't actually the real Dimitri at it after his position. There was a silly 4th who is also in charge for a certain.
Years of 1598 to 1613 in Russia called the time of troubles. And as you know, the Romanov dynasty was Dynasty, I was in charge of Russia to the first world war. However will not a lot of people know about is that poor man occupied Russia during that time. In fact, the Russian people are very accepting of the Polish. The only problem was is that the homeless people wanted? The Russians convert to Catholicism instead of the Orthodox, of course, the Russians. And that's the reason why Russia is Russia today as Orthodox Mission. However, what if, what if they should just let them know that Orthodox Providence?
What would happen? This is what we're here to discuss. So wrong. What you think would happen ending be after-effects out of shape? European politics are about the next fifty years or so because this is a time for you mainly cuz of the Thirty Years War and pull name a very well-known Catholic Nation, could easily get involved in the sand with Russia on their side to that could I could also leverage it to Russia, doesn't have industrialization to read other European nations. During the time, British proper equipment. Russia has the Manpower. And I mean, this is a consistent throughout history able to use its dominance its manpower to just to serve his dominance in the region because they have thus they have a section that large amount of numbers of a there than just overwhelm their enemies in under Poland's Belpre say I think its borders against the Ottomans.
What does it mean when dry backyard little bit, little further towards back towards Anatolia? What do you think about that? Cuz I think for the first little bit, I was a first shift, you have to be more conservative with its expansion and they could definitely drive them back. I don't think they would try to take any more land because Russia is already a pretty big Lane with a lot of population, as you said before and whatever the country Crucible tries to consolidate its own, like a new region. For example, they tend to become a little bit more isolationist or conservative in their own foreign policy for a little bit of time. You see us about multiple points of history. And as I was saying before,
I just think that could be a special case in to where the polls might get involved in. My reasoning behind. That is not is more not in terms of a form of religious reason since and otherwise, I think that I think that during the first of the year that they pull the try to have a more conservative foreign policy. What do you think about that? You bring up a good point cuz I have no sweet and episode 10 countries, tend to look more internally and deal with things and revolts and overall stability. When they conquered Nubia, like a large amount of land with different cultures and different types of languages in.
Overall, this tradition stuff because I don't necessarily like being ruled by someone of a different culture for like, let's say, a Swedish person would not be like throwing by example. I mean, I know that's not really an extreme case to a Mediterranean culture in a Norwegian culture. They would not like being ruled by the other abilities. As you said, it's a religious War, soak the one. I got show they want to help their Catholic fellow Nations like the habsburgs and they just want to help them win the war. He like, maybe join right away, but maybe we'll join around later towards R Us a movie around the 1630s of the six later 1620s.
I think you're in the war just because it's in a religious War. So they needed. They want to help their fellow. Same religious name overall. I think bowling if they do joint, I can they could potentially change nothing. They could potentially change. The peace deal though, I think.
I don't think that I don't think I would really affect the Thirty Years War in terms of the religious. I think I'm going to get even change in terms of land borders in Europe.
Why do you say that?
It's just a poem that I don't think we really played a big part in this. I think about, we play a little bit of a lesser role because mainly cuz the fact that they're they just conquered coracle, just conquered Russia siding specifically that with the
Due to the expansion of the Ottoman Empire into specifically Transylvania or past years. I don't know if they'd be able to really in a shade more of Austria to do that. I just think specifically that hold on to it with poles Russia and Austria. At the same time. It's 50 to 100 miles from Vienna. So I think they would really get stuck there. I'm going to get be allowed to get anywhere closer to Vienna with this man power because of such a Vienna the capital city of Worcester sauce, chicken fight, extra hard to make sure that the capitalism you're taken. And I guess they can delay a bit for the Russian manpower to get in and help reinforce the lines and overall, just hold the Ottomans back to your point there. I think it just depends on how you look at it. So enough about the Army's. I think we should probably turn to a titty another theater in Europe, which Republican northern Europe actually specifically with the rise of Sweden as a great power.
Singapore, mr. Weenie Commonwealth bus, Russia or comment is Sweden in Scandinavia in general. I mean, it's very icy Pursuit. Sorry. It says lot chillier climate and it has less population than like a rush obviously so their Manpower is me a lot last I think the reason they were able to beat the polls, is because their military, their leaders of strategies were a lot better, but I think I can this is still a common theme Russian Manpower. Just depends on how the compressor was in a strategy is a reminder. I think a man power still going to beat the tragedy in this area. I didn't wash your man Powers movie of the whole, the Polish lines and just come by the Swedish threat actually cuz I'm a man power itself. Stop them.
But at the same time, you know what? Yeah, I think I agree with your point there at the end of the day. I think it actually a more united for us to do better.
So what do you think would happen to Siberia? Also, and I know we just quickly transitioned. I'm actually more curious to what happened. What do you think happens with the Siberian front like to think that Poland, Poland Lithuania, or maybe even a, Cossack sure example, would maybe settle over over in Siberia. I heard the Polish would actually engaging Collins colonization of Siberia is in Poland in general, really didn't colonize how much like a to like listen to Russian calling Siberian in Alaska or the French and the British North America. As you mentioned, the Cossacks might take me to call has more to say. But I don't think there be one force that occupied, sabir Khan, I said, during our time today to Russia, but I think instead of be more like, possibly more Mongolian tribes, some will be more cause text tribes, and various native tribes or just natives. There isn't really any form of nation there for set. Siberia isn't going to be what it is today.
Like its brushes independent. I think it would call a nice. But since Russia is under the Polish guide. I don't think poles going to come colonize Siberia. See, I don't think that they, like, I'd say, more sex live.
So I can't really predict anything. Also happened to ask 1700 many cuz well one thing we can certainly predict his Apple would be a modern-day super power. Number one and number two. I think that provides a whole lot more, a lot more substance than we could probably theorize about.
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