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Life Lessons From Dana's Husband Peter McMahon
A Dana Perino Podcast: Everything Will Be Okay
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Hello, and welcome back to the season finale of everything will be. Okay, this week, I'm joined by a phenomenal, businessman mentor and human being. And I'm not just saying that because he's my husband, Peter McMahon and I met on August 17th, 1997. And we got married a year later. So we've been together a long time and he's actually my best friend and my best guide and everything that I've accomplished would not have been possible if we weren't together. So I wanted to have a chance for you to hear from him until you listen to Peter McMahon and also have a special guest at join guest in addition to him also, a family member and it is not a furry, one named Percy
The season went by very fast, I loved every moment of it. I had a chance to speak with people here at Fox News, which I know that you all love. We had a New York Times bestselling authors. We had a military people. We had, we known to journalists and Beauty gurus and some of my very dear friends and the co-founders of Minutemen train. So it was fabulous, it brought me a lot of joy and I Know It gave all of you, the gift of invaluable life and career advice,
Peter welcome. This is not your first time on a podcast. I know you actually would like to have your own podcast one of these days. We'll maybe I think it's a good idea. But do you want to talk about on your podcast?
The interesting discoveries one makes when coming to live in the United States from the UK as I believe it was George, miniature one said, two countries /, language and some amazing how many difference is their aunt. And even to this day, occasionally, Dana and I have a little bit of a dispute because there's been a misunderstanding about the fury nidiffer.
Okay, let me back up, okay? To cause to cause a fur. Are you said for Rory? Rory, Rory, I've never heard of that in my life and you can add me, say the words and the way I said it, you said, you can't say a lie but you said something like when a dog has a fever.
Like was like the fuhrer.
Right. But honestly, Peter Fiore nobody in America has ever said that, like, wow, that caused a real for Rory, nobody and nobody in America has ever ever said that his schedule. And that's the worst kind of nails on a chalkboard that word to drop the you in words like color and honor. When we say the same color and the owner
So I don't drop it really when you spell it on the, on my laptop, it's set for American alphabet. So know that did it automatically for me at the beginning and now I do it. But if I'm writing to somebody in the UK, I still put the you in have you had any text message failures lately with your voice texting. I haven't, but I know somebody who has no, I know, I'm just trying to use voice text more because it's avoid the posture problems in my back and everything. I'm really having it. I'm struggling on that front. So I'm using voice text. And these people, that we are very good friends with asses to go to dinner. When will the weekends this summer? And I meant to say what we have a lot of guests this summer, but when I pressed send, and then she means gas
And I what did I write and it said this weekend or this summer so I just very kindly said, I think she was talking about me around more than that having to take the blame. If you might have heard another little laughter. That this is a real treat because I knew Peter is coming to the podcast but an unexpected. Guest is my sister. Angie Perino. May shock is here. Want to say hi? I have a stronger voice please. Hi everybody. There you go. I never talked into one of these before. One of these is called a what a microphone. That's right. You can't see what I'm doing here. Who could never guess who's the oldest sister? Could you make it right? Because one time you asked me Facebook Friday questions on the five was on? What what did you like to do it as soon as school's out for the summer? What did you like to play? And I said School.
That's true. And you play school going to be the season finale of this year's everything will be okay podcast season. I think it's been an amazing run. I can't believe all the great people. We had a chance to talk to you, including your Walker Hayes and Jay, Jay Harding from Nashville, that was amazing, Amora Nielsen. I was a good friend of works in the beauty industry. I know you had all these crowd favourites from here. Judge Jeanine. Pirro Jimmy Fallon, Jesse Watters. And we started off with an interview or bump discussion with my Minutemen tree cofounders, Jamie zwieback and Dean Martin. And I was thrilled that, that was so highly popular. Got a lot of downloads. And so today, I just wanted to have Peter and Angie, because without them, I would not be able to do what I do or have written the book on. I learned a lot from Peter and I just wanted
Do you get a chance of people who listen to the podcast from IP new listeners? The podcast to hear about your approach because
You're the most even-keeled person. I know it kind of annoying actually. Yeah, I know it's true but
One of the things about the difference between American and British English as a language is that I will say something. Like, I am so excited to go to dinner. Tonight, aren't you excited? And he'll say, I'm looking forward to it as if he's able to get too excited. I mean, it's just I don't know. I don't think I've actually ever seen you excited.
Yes. Well, you know the the email that was going around
I saw the one that was the year, the terrorist attack in Britain and they said, you know, that that raising the the national alert from annoyed to mixed with something like that. It's the British way. Just tends to be a bit more calm but not being said, I find that a lot of Americans alone, then Britain's quite animated at times was Americans tend to be a bit, yes.
I think it's a bit of a misconception that has a role that the Brits are, because I know it. Just look at the football Hooligans on cool and collected. Dana always says don't lose your ranks. I just told you about going for a weekend, we're playing tennis with another couple and Peter twice, tried to say something about the rules or like something happen. If we were supposed to switch when we didn't, and he was wrong, both times, but it still sounded like he was, right? Yeah, I know, that's true. But the expression a man is in the woods, 200 miles from anybody walking along and he's talking to himself, is he still wrong every woman? I know says yes, coming out for something like a voiceover thing or something.
Cuz I'm speaking quietly into the restroom at the time that anybody is looking for someone to do Coke. So I'm ready willing and able to answer the phone. Oh no. Okay so I was it was off to my first marriage and I was I don't know how to put it making up for lost time. I shall sharing a house with a couple of the guys cuz I was poor as a church mouse. And while he's asleep watching the TV in the evening, I answer the phone. I was near the end of the landline days. This is pre cell phone and one of them pointed on one. So don't pick up the phone and I can't remember the number but it was shortened numbers in those days. Don't say something like 2 and then it's a HUD oh hellos they knew there was a woman on the phone and they said that was my employment on the phone voice.
Yes, I guess so and you when you first met Peter, did you like his accent? Oh yeah, I was really young. I was 21. 18, something like that 2018 or 21 summer in there, but yes, I absolutely love his accent and Peter and I we are very close to 7726 25 years ago. This August 27th, this but I'm Jack's Network FOX News senior meteorologist, to be sure to subscribe to the Janis Ian podcast at Fox News podcast, or wherever you listen to your podcast. And don't forget to spread this Sunshine. Peter, what is the best piece of career, advice you ever got?
I mean that's you're not one of them, you spend so much time at work. You should really do something that you enjoy and then if you enjoy it, you going to do it better and you find you've progressed best advice, but you're obviously, by doing a better job, and you didn't really have a little bit of that plan got yelling out the window so that maybe talk about that because in the book and as opposed to coming out of covid-19, both decided gosh, maybe I should do something different and I'm really heartened by the number of new entrepreneurs. In America is astounding people, decided and covid-19 be, I could do this on my own and the small business applications our way up the rear in the answer. What I wanted to be a pilot my best buddy and I we both wanted the same. He went on to do it.
About to go in the office and training. It just didn't work out with me and you are a jokester I was a joke. I didn't, I think seriously enough and at the end they decided I wasn't suitable material for Royal Majesty's commission has come back in a couple of years when you settle down which I never did. Yes, I actually took the opportunity to go and work in Germany before going back to college. And then just ended up never going back to college and
Got a career in sales and they turned out to be something I could do then Mindy Auto Sales.
They said that this process is a Stylus Pro cell processes you and probably call it in the butt but as long as you follow the procession do it promptly. Yes selling is it straightforward? It's a great job. If you can learn to do sales you might love doing sales and staying that your whole life but it's great training for everything else. I may be years ago, boss of mine who had worked in Japan, was on an airplane between I think Korea and Tokyo with something. It's not be selling someone they got told his what do you do when the guy said, oh I'm a Salesman of the time, my friend, cuz my boss fried with whatever Johnson Johnson that to another both work for the same company.
the $10, the guy who described himself as a Salesman was actually the CEO of Johnson & Johnson, but he still said I'm a Salesman because
Hugo, salvage. Some point. It's like The Strife that group helping people get back into the workplace. I told you about the principal of sales because they have to sell themselves to get a job. People have to sell themselves to the girl that they they have their eye on old guy whatever. So you know it's it's it's something that goes on. I like the one where you said that you have to sell your ideas to your kids. Absolutely. Yes. Oh yes. Go to sell it so hard. Going into sales and ended up. Running a company in Europe.
But then I met you and started doing my own thing working with start-up companies and but he was still very much sales and you when you heard that we like, oh gosh, Come on, but they are fine but at that we met on an airplane to your flight on time. And if I had made her late and she and Peter would have never met that would have been cuz we misjudged how long it would take to get to the nude anywhere for further out than it needs to be. It's ridiculous. It is, it's pretty far out there so I can tornado land. Yeah. Might as well be in a nice thing about that. Is it? Because we didn't have a mobile devices at the time. You actually had a hardcover book and if I had had my phone, what I've looked up, I don't know.
You know, and I think that's something that is missing from people not wanting to come back to the office, again, personal choice, you know, my feelings on that, I, but I do think socially. I don't understand how you do that. Just threw a computer. I think you have to make yourself go to some events and you don't even like with with with Peter, one of the things you'll find is it. Don't take this the wrong way cuz you actually know this is a fact is factually men don't make as many friends as I get older and they're not as intuitive. Making sure they make plans to do something with their guy friends. Women are more likely to be the ones like, okay, everybody's going out on Saturday night and getting everyone together or getting all the girls together but you have really turned around. I think I'm I'm sure I never want to throw you a surprise party cuz it we couldn't find fit all those people in a room.
What state are most this year, friends from California, Alex and Anna and then friends from South Carolina Jeff and Tracy turned out. It was a total surprise to me. Here's my mentoring advice for the day.
If you're going to have a surprise party just pack your patience because it's difficult this so difficult but it's also worth it. But it's also very difficult to have a surprise for Dana because Dana's so observant as we went to Budapest and then Paris first exactly in Paris, Dana didn't know where we were going. So she was asking a million questions. What do I weigh? What's the weather going to be like, will I know the language? And so I had to say stop asking questions. Otherwise, you'll guess where we're going.
So Dana pack for everything from Antarctica to Singapore. And we spent a couple days in London post was in my childhood being sick and we get to Heathrow Airport and then it still doesn't know where we're going. So I'm handing over the rental account is the days when you have to wait on the guy inspected it and then you sign the document and the bus driver to Shuttle Drive, it came over. I put the bags in and said to Dana in his London accent which to know. Love and Dana said, I don't know. So he said well which airline? Then she said, I don't know. So then he looked at you and he said why you going? And she said, I don't know, I could see. Was it called his face? I could imagine and going home that evening to his wife saying, I had one of these blatant Americans on my bus to die and she didn't even know where she was going. Great memory has finally been able to do some travel together.
What do you is the most important part of supporting me in my career?
Oh, that's a very good question. I asked great questions, I cook. Well, thank you for being available whenever needed. If, if I possibly can, and because your career is so demanding and mine is only in bits. I am usually able to fit around your requirements, rather than mine. Now, is not that wouldn't necessarily be impossible in certain other jobs that I'd had. And you look at the fact that I don't know how many years ago, it was Wheel of Time that we had a three-month period while we saw each other for 16 days and that was when I said I won't travel for more than a week at a time, my client's complied and I was fine. If they hadn't then it would have been tough luck. I made a big difference. It made a big difference. So you know, we have to actually had fun even though you're really loud on the phone.
So that was set. Yeah, we had six months in the same house. The first time we've had six months while we haven't had an orange appellant and we still like to have a great advice. Do you give to people who are Maybe
Thinking about a career change or a move, right? You've moved so many times and too many different countries. I think, I think we're living in your 43rd address of your life that you have to return mailing address of people. Don't look, if you don't want to move that spot, right? There's a lot of reasons to stay in your family or to move back to be nearer to family. But what has traveling and moving around a lot brought to you both personally and professionally.
I've been very fortunate to travel to a lot of countries and not only gone there but work there with local people
So some of the places you've worked Southeast Central Asia and Middle East South America Europe. Saudi Arabia, yes in Germany twice for two years each time. So it gives you great insight into other people's lives and
From my perspective, funeral going going, two countries, while I'm not on vacation. I have had the opportunity to see the real country, is just how many Stanton and people of people all around the world, you know, wherever they may be whatever, they thought of that Creed, that religion people are very much, the same everywhere you go. And in many ways, I love that. I was about to moving. It's some, it's all too well. We should take the opportunity to see as much of it as possible. And you know what, I remember when I came out of here with you, a friend of mine, said to me, I think you're very brave. Just going off to America and we were married by that time.
But he's heading out to eat my Brave, doing that. And yeah, just just packing up and going out there and
Obviously I was confident we will get it was going to work out with us, but the worst case scenario is let's say something has gone wrong. I tuck my tail between my legs when I go back to the UK because you know I wouldn't have a Visa at that time. What's the weather situation is my usual situation with with your business and you know, what am I going to do on President Bush? Said she will let you know once the West that can happen and that was what prompted you to start your own business. You also help me in the book, you will you help me with a particular moment that was a very pivotal in our lives called the Whiteboard incident and it's helpful to people who read everything will be okay if they're trying to make a decision about something and they can't quite work. It out in their head, you made us put it down on on that paper. But on a whiteboard, how did you do that? But was supposed to exercise.
Also we had three potential options and we said to the jail Burien, what is it that you like about it? And the one of much I want you dislike and that was about seven items, I think. So it may be more like it came out of a -7 score anyway and then the second one, it was a job. He was looking at on that came out about a minus two and then we just said anything in DC, I need work in DC before. So you knew what you'd be looking at it was supposed to school or so and that point, I said, just a no-brainer. So very easy decision decision, this pluses and minuses, and it's not a mathematical equation because some minuses can count for an awful lot more than a couple of positives. But it reminds me of the, the pasta, we were talking about who told us that many years before. Then he had the option of a really, really nice Parish. The lovely people in there. I need a number Old Goat.
China, as a missionary.
He couldn't make up his mind, he's talking to his brother who is also a pastor, and he said I'm just going to have to toss a coin and his brother said yeah but before you do just stopping to think cuz you really know which side of the coin. You want to come up honey, honey bunch of China. So yeah, we usually know this is not feeling in that and I think it is always good to balance it, but I'll let you travel on the world and has been in places when you think about the promise of not just England, but of America, and a freedom. And one of the things I talk about in the book is that if you are born in America, and you are educated
The only thing you have to decide is how hard do you want to work and what do you want to do? Absolutely. And that difference is freedom, everyone. The reasons you wanted to come here and start your business was the American system, much more easy. And you know, it's some
Again, having travel to a lot of countries. I am, I always used to say when people say, what's the favorite country of being too. I would say without hesitation South Africa.
That wouldn't be the case. Now to the political situation, which is such a shame, and the crime is it to 100. But the
Here in the states, for Aldi, the downsides, the upsides way it amazingly in, you know, I look at some of the places you go to India or srilanka or a lot of places on that. The polity is unbelievable Africa. Some of the 1250 we've seen in Africa so Everything's Relative. Okay. The other side of that is that when you're sitting in a in a not very nice home here with that low-paying job and you see the guy drive by in his Mercedes and you know you think well he has and I don't but
There is the opportunity that so many people by working hard. Can at least have a decent standard of living. Yeah. Maybe maybe they're not going to be driving a Mercedes and having a second home or whatever. But they can they even have food on the table every day and they have to have a reasonable standard of living relative to a lot of places that have the three touchdowns in the living right after this Fox News podcast Network, I'm Ben domenech, Fox News contributor and editor of the transom.com daily newsletter and I'm inviting you to join a conversation every week. It's the Ben, domenech podcast describing, listen out by going to Fox News, podcast. Calm and some people are won't look what was the number today.
87% of people pulled in that New York Times. They think the country is going in the wrong direction.
Who are the 15%? Good good for you. But when you think about the future of the country, do you feel positive about it or wary?
positive, when I was,
Hollis. I am equally enthusiastic but you know I see problems but I think it's not just the United States. I think it's many places and I read the English newspapers every day and you see the
As I reflect on the web karate at work that was well trying to destroy what you want to eliminate a lot of history and you can undo it.
You can learn from it, please you try and block it and I'll do it. You know what they say 1994 by George? Orwell was meant to be a warning, not to instruction manual. So yeah, I think this issue's but
it's a great country and I think I think will come through this when I give people your take on Boris Johnson.
Really. Yes not impressed. I never have been. I've always seen him as an opportunist and every now and again, different countries have somebody who comes along and sees an opportunity and seize it.
He was a reasonable gentlest. He became mayor of London party because the person he was running against was a rabid socialist on people with Fed Up of it. Tired of it.
I'm going to go into that, become a member of Parliament, and saw the opportunity, and people voted for him because he was different. They chose him because he was very different, you know, I think if he did spend a bit more time listening to those around him, maybe a little bit less time, trying to make his hair look like he hadn't done anything with it. Maybe, cuz I know it's
The thing is, he's about to hit East in the conservative party and he is his policies have nothing conservative and a lot of people in the UK, be saying when that at least we'll have a chance to get back to conservative values. Don't tell people, the first joke, you ever told me, I have told it in India. So I was sitting on the plane beside Dana and we were talking and I'd be in Indy a couple of weeks before, when Dana said India was India. You know what candies, brother Works in London.
I never really said, yes, he will go to the Ritz hotel in the in the cloakroom. His name was Mahatma coat and Dana still flock to that 25-year. Peter can remember every single joke is ever been told and where he learned it. That's weird. You have remember where I'm going to be in 2 hours but you can remember those jokes. Well, I have encountered on the way you going to be in 2 hours because you mentioned it in passing two weeks ago, and that the person who said, what country you in? I've been in Korea for a week. But yeah, is there a place you'd like to travel to? You've never been
You know that that's a good question. I I don't know that the that the really is probably allow sound like to go to lunch or something. I'd like to go back to countries have been to Vietnam Australia. Really want to have a trip to Australia with you.
But other than that, this does not race Croatia, maybe how many more to go to Croatia, very good things about it. But now the place is really does it for me that much. Angie, what about you guys are inside? You're dying to go.
I would love to go see the Northern Lights, okay, but I want to go like where you can really see him. So I think you got to go up north somewhere at Alaska or Norway. Yeah, Fenton on America's Newsroom. She went member I sent you the pictures. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Where you needed to be exactly at what time it is that it is just all inspiring space. I really like space. Yeah. My husband, and I would have not interested at all. I know me. I'm kind of interested. Sorry, pigs in space on The Muppets, but it just kind of leaves me cold. I'm not excited. I don't think I'm ever going to go live on Mars. A dentist. It doesn't. I won't live on Mars either likes but you think that there are UFOs? Yes. There's aliens you think that we're not the only beings we can't be the only beans out here. How do you know where it is? He who did? There's no way, we're the only ones, no way.
I agree with Angie. I don't necessarily believe that works been flying around here as it is necessarily from another planet. I don't know. Listen carefully, pull tomorrow. If you listening, I'm open-minded. I'm not a crazy UFO. Also didn't confirm it was made by DOD.
Yeah, so we don't we don't know but my view is that I'm open-minded if something or somebody or whatever baby from another planet arrived and was identified as being from another planet. Yes, I would be shocked. Everybody will be short but what I mean? That surprised I don't think so. I think we were talking about sometime I guess when he was growing up in California. I don't remember what decade this was. He said that they used to hear all these Sonic booms off the coast and nobody knew what it was. But turns out it was Area, 51 stuff, but he didn't say you could go see no Area 52 and I look, this is about to come back from commercial break and I was like, I looked into, it wasn't like 31 for the screenplay.
About Area 52. Like all these people thought they were going to get to go work on all the cool stuff on Area 51 but they're trapped in Area 52 and it's like, 80 ocracy come on. That's a great screenplay right there tomorrow. If you're listening, do you write that up for me, please? I will say, one of my favorite movies is Independence Day. I could watch that movie, that we were so upset. When we walked out of the movie theater, it was on Arapahoe Road. We went and saw it and it wasn't the one with like, the asteroids going to destroy the Earth and Morgan Freeman's. Tia Leoni was in it. Hate it up, and it was like Armageddon, but it was Deep Impact. I can't watch. It was Deep Impact. Is at the dollar theater streaming has ruined, I guess we have to go see Top Gun at the theater. We can do that. I'm Peter, my last question for you is when you what was your reaction, when you first read the final draft of everything, will be okay.
I thought he was amazing, but why didn't you say Caroline, Caroline? I said man who women you overthink everything? It's no wonder women come sleep because every conversation of the day and then I said, women spend more time worrying about what medicine King than the time men spend thinking, I think you're absolutely right and dogs and dogs. Are you getting to know your new dog? Percy goes by that. I don't laugh at him at least once an hour. He's so funny. He is funny. He's hilarious. He has a sense of humor. Sense of mischief and
He isn't it, nine months knows how to rent. Both of us around a little pool and he did very early. Thank you. Everything you want to sell America? No, I'm good. Keep us. If you have a chance right now to say anything you want to America and you're going to pass. Yeah, I don't know what to say. The only thing I would like to say to America is, please go out and buy Dana Perino's books.
I'll be back for another season in the not-too-distant future. Thank you for listening and you're amazing and I love getting all of the feedback. So we'll be back soon.
Make sure you subscribe to the series wherever you download podcasts and leave a rating and review. I'll see you next season. I'm Dana Perino. Everything will be okay.
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